December 13, 2012
"Hey men: if a woman is rude to you, perhaps consider that you have put her in a position where she has to be rude to you in order to convey to you that you are not treating her like a full human. Also consider that this is what women’s lives are like, full of these little incidents, little and big incidents of not being treated like a full human, piling up every day."

Things I Ate That I Love (via rachelfershleiser)

The problem with this is that it serves as it’s own form of inequality. It tells the guy that, in all interactions with a negative person, he should have a presumptive belief that he is in fact the asshole. He then carries an affirmative duty to prove that he is not in fact the asshole in the situation.

Real equality is to simply respect the individual, and allow the individual to respect themselves. The guy should be able to walk away thinking that the woman was rude, and the woman should be able to walk away think the guy was rude.

(via toledosam)

If someone reacts in a way that makes you feel bad, maybe examine your behaviour. The onus is on women to be polite to people they don’t want to interact with, so in fact the inequality is balanced against women. Women are socialized their whole lives to be nice and polite and to be accommodating, even in situations that make them feel uncomfortable or threatened.

Not every woman wants to talk to every man she encounters in public. She will send out subtle polite cues to communicate that. If a man ignores those cues and a woman has to be rude to make him understand that his attention is unwanted then his is an asshole and should reconsider how he interacts with women.

(via toledosam)

December 13, 2012
Jen Says More Robots: "mansplaining"

leontinemay:

emilygould:

Last night I spoke at an event that was a meeting of a small group of people who are interested in writing and publishing books. There were several women there who seemed to have written interesting books or parts of books which they had to be coaxed into talking about and at times seemed slightly apologetic about having written.  There were also two guys, one of whom had just quit his finance job and was now working on a novel about Asia and one of whom had recently retired and was now working on short fiction.  They did not have to be coaxed into talking about anything.

I’m genuinely interested in hearing about writers’ experiences with publishing: self-publishing, small publishing, and large publishing. I think sometimes my experience, first as an editor and briefly as a publishing-gossip reporter and then as an author and now as a bookseller, can make it hard for me to think about counterintuitve approaches, because I know how difficult it can be to get publishers to change the way they do things and so I default to thinking “but that could never happen.” The perspective of people who have no idea “how things are done” can be very valuable because they are capable of imagining the good outcomes that I am too jaded to imagine.

But my perspective is valuable too, and that’s, ostensibly, why I was invited to speak at this event.  These guys, for whatever reason, did not seem to think my perspective was valuable and I’d had a long day already and wasn’t really into being cut off midsentence by a banker who is working on a novel about Asia, but when that happened I said “No worries!” and smiled.  

Afterwards I got on the F train to go home. It came pretty quickly and I got a seat.  I have a bunch of books I’m reading but felt too tired and braindead to read them, so instead I took out my phone and started scrolling through the tweets I’d loaded onto it before heading underground.  There was a large, middle-aged man sitting next to me and he looked over my shoulder, saw the tweets and said “You get reception down here?” incredulously.  I didn’t feel like talking to anyone but I was in default talk-to-anyone mode because of the event, so I said, “No, of course not” in a neutral tone of voice, which indicated to this guy that I was interested in having a conversation. About my phone. That he’d been reading over my shoulder.

“Oh, I was gonna ask what carrier you have,” he said, then launched into a long monologue about internet access in general, and how he showed his elderly landlady how to use Google.  Maybe under totally different circumstances I would have been interested in hearing this anecdote, and felt like “wow, what a neighborly charm this big city can have, what an amusing oddball” but here’s the thing: I had put away my phone, taken out my book and said something like, “Well, I’m going to read my book now,” and this guy was still talking. To me, but you know, not really. He was using my presence, the fact I hadn’t been outright rude to him when he’d first tried to start a conversation, as an excuse to just talk because he was bored on the subway, hadn’t brought anything to read or play with or eat, so instead he was going to entertain himself by forcing his sociality on nonthreatening-looking strangers, probably not other men. 

“Enjoy your book,” he finally said, in a tone of voice that meant ” … you cold, dumb bitch.” I probably fake-smiled or winced or something. He sighed loudly and shifted in his seat. I stared at my book. Of course I wasn’t really reading, just turning pages. I wanted to get up, but I was so tired and there were no other seats and there were only two stops left to go before my transfer.

Hey men: if a woman is rude to you, perhaps consider that you have put her in a position where she has to be rude to you in order to convey to you that you are not treating her like a full human.  Also consider that this is what women’s lives are like, full of these little incidents, little and big incidents of not being treated like a full human, piling up every day. 

I’ve read several of these essays about men talking to women in public, and how harrassing and unpleasant it feels - and I know that it can feel really invasive and inappropriate at times. But I think that there is a generational divide at play as well. When I was a young professional, new to the city (lo these fifteen years ago), there was no facebook, no okcupid, no…internet, basically. I mean, there was an internet, but it wasn’t very interactive.  So chatting people up in public places was pretty much the only way to meet someone who hadn’t gone to college with someone you already knew. I chatted people up in Washington Square and on the subway, and got chatted up in front of the Strand. In fact, getting chatted up by a guy in front of the Strand led eventually to a bunch of long-lasting friendships, a job and my first gallery show. And I never even saw the original guy again! Public conversation was facebook, okcupid and tumblr rolled into one. And people who didn’t talk to strangers spent a lot of time recounting anecdotes about college to their cats.

So if you find yourself getting talked to by an overly friendly stranger on the train, ask yourself if he is over 35, and if he is, if maybe he grew up in a time when that was a normal, nay, the only way to meet someone new. And maybe also ask yourself if talking to other humans in person about normal subjects might actually be preferable to getting skeevy messages from creeps on okcupid asking you to show them your boobs. 

And blowing off someone who is engaging you in a civil, non-sexual conversation *is* rude. You absolutely have the right to turn your back on him, but he also has the right to be offended. That is how human interaction works.

I’m allowed to be rude to strangers. Social rules may say, “hey ladies be nice to every man because you owe him that” but that’s not a law and I don’t have to be open to conversation with every man I encounter.

Men who approach women in public think they have a right to that woman’s attention, but they don’t. It’s just as rude or moreseo to talk at someone as it is to dismiss a person you have no interest in talking to. Why should I encourage conversation with someone I don’t want to talk to? For the sake of their feelings? Why? It’s not my job to go around making sure every man on the planet feels he’s getting enough attention.

You ask me to consider men who grew up before the internet. I ask you to consider women who are victims of rape and who have been blamed for “encouraging” their attacker by being too nice and friendly to strangers (or even people they know). Those men risk hurt feelings, I risk being blamed for having been raped.

Men can learn to read social cues. Just because a woman doesn’t stick her nose in a book the first time you look at her doesn’t mean she wants to hear your do gooder tale or anything else you have to say.

eta: Also, jesus christ how entitled do men have to be to think that every woman in public that they want to chat up wants to be chatted up by them? If you’re hot stuff and a woman is pursuing you, you’ll notice. Otherwise back the fuck off.

November 10, 2012

bustygirlcomics:

zandergb:

Seriously, like half of the Busty Girl Problems comics are a) things you shouldn’t be doing in the first place, or b) things that occur independently of your boob size.

Did you guys know that our boobs get in the way as protest for trying to cook or exercise? That’s right, even you smaller-chested busty folks (because we all know the definition of busty here at BGC) are only having frustrations because we’re not supposed to be doing things while busty. Silly me, doing stuff all these years. No wonder my boobs are always getting in the way!

Thank you, sir. Thank you for finally explaining to all 180,000 of us how our bodies work! What a relief to finally have an answer after all these years.

(Oh, and don’t worry about the copyright violation from reposting my comics without a source. I fixed it. :D )

If I’m not supposed to be doing these things can you tell me where to sign up for a non-busty servant? Because someone has to cook dinner and I’d be happy to hand that off to someone else.

August 22, 2012
"Most women fight wars on two fronts, one for whatever the putative topic is and one simply for the right to speak, to have ideas, to be acknowledged to be in possession of facts and truths, to have value, to be a human being. Things have certainly gotten better, but this war won’t end in my lifetime. I’m still fighting it, for myself certainly, but also for all those younger women who have something to say, in the hope that they will get to say it."

— The Problem With Men Explaining Things

(Source: Mother Jones)

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